Planning our escape

In the book “The Great Escape” the captured soldiers are making plans.  They are digging a hole in the ground because they refuse to be kept behind wires.  They will do all in their power to get out of the prisioner of war camp, and even though many will suffer greatly for what they plan to do, they keep on.

Dig, drop the sand, dig some more. They will find a way out.

We are in a ghetto. The ghetto made up of those who talk about women being unable to serve as ministers, pastors, deacons, etc, and those who speak up for women’s equality.  We have created a little city of our own.  Listen to what Melody says in her blog “logic and imagination.” 

“I was gently reminded by a new friend on Facebook that our dialogue about women can become ghettoized (which I’ll confess I don’t totally understand what she means)”

I believe that her friend is onto something.  We have become ghettorized in our discussions about women’s equality in the church.  We sit at our computers and read blogs (I thank you all so very much!) and we read the comments and add our two cents worth.

We must get out!  We can become comfortable here, searching for more and more discussion posts, adding our comments.  What we really want to do is to break free and make a difference. We want a day when women are not discussed on public blogs as to whether or not their femaleness keeps them from serving the Lord.  It is like examining women’s teeth and breasts on the slave block.

We should be digging, dropping the sand, and digging some more.

This conversation must be made mainstream.  Those sitting in Sunday school classes across America, Australia, and Europe, and elsewhere must be drawn into this conversation that affects women everywhere.  Not just in the ghetto of the blogs, but in public.

When I tell people about Christians for Biblical Equality, they tell me they have never heard of it.  It is not this organization particularly that people need to hear about, but it is the fact that there is a need for an organization that speaks out for women’s equality that they need to know.

In November I met a salesman for the Houston Chronicle while I was on vacation.  I told him what I was doing, and he was surprised that Christians needed to speak out for women’s equality. He is not alone.

You and I know it.  We read the blogs.  We go searching.  We have “alerts” set up on our computer.

Let us not become too comfortable in blogosphere that we forget why we are here.  We are here to get the word out.  We are here to make a difference.

 Join us as  we attempt to do that at the CBE Houston conference.  Pass the word along to your friends and neighbors – even those you know who live too far away and cannot attend – because you never know who has a daughter or a sister or a male friend living close to Houston who would be interested in learning more about the struggle we are engaged in.

Friends, I have been busy today with the CBE conference.  Look for a new post Monday, Feb 28

(Special thanks to Eric W in his comments on the Jesus Creed, and to all my new readers and blog followers, and especially Thanks to all who have been faithful followers for a long time. Together we will make a difference).

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Shirley Taylor writes with humor and common sense, challenging the church body to reclaim equality for Christian women.
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19 Responses to Planning our escape

  1. Mabel says:

    I have said it before, the idea that women need to talk about whether they should be equal to men and what does it mean is demeaning. Just the fact that we are still explaining, arguing, etc. is disgusting, as far as I am concerned. Reading about how one verse in the Bible can be blown so out of proportion and create such a monster in people’s mind is very distressing. March is Women’s History month, and I was searching for the bio of Catherine Booth when I came across this:
    I totally agree with Shirley. We need to get out and educate, and pray. Join in the March 28 Prayer Walk.

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  2. TL says:

    Hateful is the apt description. Disgustingly so!

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  3. Anne says:

    If the author of that article left no name, he’s probably the owner/creator of the site, named David J. Stewart. Encyclopedia Dramatica describes his views on women as suchAnd here is the anti-David J. Stewart website: It turns out he’s pleaded guilty to sexually abusing a child in January last year.

    And there are some other writers that are just as bad on that site, like this one: He also manages to insult egalitarian men by calling them weak, hen-pecked and good-for-nothing. The good news is that he’s left his name and website – maybe some of us should email him and tell HIM to shut up.

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    • Anne says:

      But for those who read the links and do get into a hot stew, remember this: God WILL do justice. He will NOT let this false teacher slide.

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      • Mara says:

        Wow, your first link, Anne. Cad doesn’t even begin to cover it. I rarely doubt the Christianity of those I don’t agree with. For example, I still believe Driscoll is a Christian even though he really gets my goat every now and again.
        But this dude…
        I don’t really think he’s actually given his heart to Jesus. I think he thinks he is Christian. But I really wonder how the Holy Spirit can live in the same ‘temple’ (using that term loosely) with the filth that he is spewing out.
        Perhaps it is possible. God is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all we could ask or think. But, really, how can the Holy Spirit stand the stench?
        Really makes one wonder.

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      • Mara says:

        From the last link you gave, the last paragraph: “In conclusion, I wish to defend the women of our churches for one reason. The fact that women are taking the leadership in our churches is the result of sorry men that will not get involved and do their part. At least some woman are willing to do something! So, you good-for-nothing, hen-pecked men that have been laughing your way through this article, you need to get off your lazy back-side and do something for God. Your wife runs the home because you are too sorry to run it yourself Lady, when your sorry husband dies, please marry a man next time.”

        This guy hates people in general, not just women.

        Again, this much hatred and contempt for those created in the image of God really makes one wonder about whether a person has actually given their heart’s to Jesus or if they are just pretending and using the Christian religion as a vehicle to hate people.

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    • Mara says:

      Anne, the links you brought here are very disturbing.

      I’ve linked a couple of them on my blog and made commentary on them, somewhat like the commentary I said here, but also with more closure.

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  4. Anne says:

    Mara: This guy does have a problem with hate, but claims not to.
    If he really loved people, he wouldn’t be saying the things he does in the way he does. And I believe he is slightly lying when he says he didn’t criticise a Catholic woman when she said she was one. I believe he secretly judged her in his heart – and by the way, he is dumb enough to believe that Catholics don’t read the Bible. Seriously, click the link.

    Out of the mouth comes the overflowing of the heart. He makes the usual excuses: ‘I love everyone’, ‘It’s not my place to judge and I don’t judge’, ‘I’m a dirty sinner like everyone else’, ‘I’m only speaking the truth because God’s truth must be spoken’, etc. But he clearly does not have the Spirit in him, as you say. He is full of judgement on others, and is fooling himself if he says otherwise.

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  5. Anne says:

    I recommend you edit out the Encyclopedia Dramatica link – it’s a site that uses exaggerated, deliberately offensive content to describe things. It’s meant to be written according to what David J. Stewart believes, but WAS NOT ACTUALLY WRITTEN BY HIM. Plus the nature of ED will mean that if anyone clicks on links to pages on God, Jesus, etc, they’ll see very offensive material too.

    Frankly I’m sorry I gave that link in the first place. I only included it because it seemed to best sum up what Stewart says in his articles. Shirley, could you cut link that out of my above post please?

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    • Anne says:

      This was directed at Mara, btw.

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      • Anne says:

        And I make a mistake: I meant that the writer of the E.D. entry doesn’t actually subscribe to this beliefs, they’re just writing an exaggerated account of what David J.Stewart believes.

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      • Mara says:

        Anne, Retha just alerted me to this. Guess I will have to go back and edit it out.

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      • Mara says:

        Thanks, BTW. It just gave me the opportunity to bring up another place that displays hatred.

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      • Anne says:

        Glad it’s been sorted out. For the record, I tried repeating the above in a comment on your blog to make sure you got the message, but it was an epic, epic quest trying to post one and eventually I gave up. The reason being that the word confirmation box wouldn’t accept my entry, even though it was correct. I’m just letting you know that this is happening – maybe it’s just my computer, but maybe others are suddenly having trouble posting comments on your blog too. I know you probably can’t do anything about it, but if there’s a sudden lack of comments that would be the reason why. #headsup

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      • I deleted all links to this subject.

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  6. Anne says:

    Shirley, I was replying to Mara’s post and trying to say that her blog wasn’t letting me post. Yours is just fine. 🙂

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    • Mara says:

      And I hear you, Anne. And you are right. I don’t know what to do. I don’t get many comments and this may be why. Thanks for the heads up. I get a lot of hits but not many comments which is too bad. I’d like a little more dialogue over there. Other people have some really good things to add to my bits and pieces.

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