The Occupy Wall Street bunch brought to mind something called ‘grouptalk.” It appears that whenever a group of like minded people get together they build each other up and reinforce the common perception. They begin to speak as a group and what they say becomes acceptable to each in the group. Even if that was not their original intent, they accept it.
Churches engage in grouptalk. Denominations engage in grouptalk.
Grouptalk commonly found in churches regarding women in ministry generally follow the same line of thinking. They think it is original with them, but they are just repeating some of the same old phrases we have heard before.
Men and women have different roles in the church. We know men and women have different roles in church and that is what we are speaking out against.
Women have babies and the men can’t, so we know God did not make man and woman equal. Actually that gives a woman a role closer to the Christ figure in a marriage than it gives men. She actually is willing to lay down her life to birth her child.
Only men were chosen to be one of the “twelve.” Jesus could choose whoever he wanted to be one of the twelve. We believe that he is choosing who he wants to choose now when he chooses women to be one of the thousands upon thousands.
Jesus came as a man, not as a woman. Look, it was 50/50. Jesus had to come as either a man or a woman. I’m not upset because He didn’t appear as a woman, and you shouldn’t be puffed up because he appeared as a man.
In spite of these differences, men and women are still one in Christ. The differences are far too important in complementarian restrictionists to suddenly declare that we are one in Christ. They speak with forked tongue.
Men were given the right to teach and lead at the Creation. Poor Adam. Just got here and now he is to lead a woman when all he wants to do is eat.
Husbands are to take self-sacrificial roles. Both husbands and wives take on sacrificial roles when it comes to raising children. Mothers often take food from their own plate to see that her children are fed.
Why should men be slandered for following Christ’s instruction. Men are not being falsely accused for following Christ’s instruction. Men are being edified with truth and knowledge that they otherwise refuse to see.
We should not judge a man’s conviction.Men and women both have convictions that are not biblically sound. Remember the nut who predicted the world was coming to an end?
Compare women’s equality to some goddess cult. Bring women down by comparing her to some goddess cult she has never even heard of.
Praise women for their women’s job of teaching children and other women. Woman, you are a good teacher of your children. You can even teach my children. You are even worthy to teach other women.
Praise women for running the church because the men are absent. Well, that is just plain stupid. The Word is the Word whether men or present or not. Lottie Moon set the example. “Send men,” she said. “But until they get here, I will continue to teach.” The men never arrived.
When a couple has prayed and prayed and still can’t come to a decision, someone has to decide what to do and that someone should be the man. Well, well, well. Now we do have a dilemma. Perhaps God did answer in prayer, but the husband didn’t hear well and said “keep praying!” Finally she gives in and viola, the man gets to make the decision.
You can’t have two captains running a ship. A marriage is not a ship, unless it is a partnership.
Don’t judge the woman who chooses to submit to her husband. If a woman willingly submits to her husband, that is her business. But if she is willingly submitting because you have threatened God on her if she doesn’t, then she is not willingly submitting.
Don’t judge the woman who chooses not to have authority over her brothers in Christ. Don’t you judge the woman who decides that no gender has the lock on having authority over another.
Will you help others who are seeking knowledge about women in ministry and in teaching positions in church? Will you help other women who are confused about the teaching that they hear which tells them that they are to submit to men in all positions of authority in the church and in the home?