M-alice in Wonderland

“I’m late! I’m late! For a very important date! No time to say hello, goodbye! I’m late! I’m late! I’m late!”

A new year has begun at Southern Baptist seminaries: Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, and New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, Golden Gate BTS in Mill Valley, California, Southeastern BTS, in Wakerfield, North Carolina, and Midwestern BTS in Kansas City, Missouri, and with branches in many other cities.

By the end of May 2012, pastors and youth directors will be turned out to unsuspecting churches, and congregations. They will have been indoctrinated at the beginning of the year on September 13, 2011, with the Danvers Statement philosophy, (the statement of faith on SWBTS website) and with John Piper’s and Wayne Gudem’s Recovering Biblical Manhood and Biblical Womanhood, and with Wayne Grudem’s (past president of the Council on Biblical Manhood and Biblical Womanhood) Systematic Theology as one of their class textbooks.

“I’m late! I’m late! For a very important date! No time to say hello, goodbye! I’m late! I’m late! I’m late!”

Marlena Graves writes that a well known speaker, Margaret Feinberg, says that she believes that at the grassroots level, things are changing for women.  But what she goes on to say is disturbing:

“I wonder why we’re even talking about this when there are so many needs around the world? Now is not the time. When every starving person has food, when every homeless person has a place to live, when every well is dug, when AIDS has been eradicated in Africa, when all of our neighbors know Jesus, then we can sit and debate about titles and who should do what.”

I talked with the pastor of Big Baptist Church and he was for women in ministry, but he was about to retire and he did not want it known that he thought women could preach or be deacons.  He would be speaking at these churches that do not allow women deacons, so he didn’t want the taint.  But he did say something important to me in our conversation.  He said that people at Baptist General Convention ofTexas, my employer for almost 15 years, told him that “now is not the time. Why is she bringing this up now?” He said he told them, “If not now, when?”

When, indeed!

 “I’m late! I’m late! For a very important date! No time to say hello, goodbye! I’m late! I’m late! I’m late!”

Classes will start soon at the six Baptist Seminaries that are afffiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention.  If it were only Baptists at those seminaries you might be safe.  But it is not only Baptists who attend these seminaries.  It is likely that your pastor or youth leader will be sitting in class next week, learning that women are to be submissive, and that women cannot have authority over a man, and that a husband has leadership over women in the church and home simply because he was born a male.

Before it is too late, I challenge you find out what your Youth Pastor and your Pastor believe about women’s equality.  I challenge you to tell them that you don’t want your church funds going to teach a theology that denies women equality in the church and home.

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About bwebaptistwomenforequality

Shirley Taylor writes with humor and common sense, challenging the church body to reclaim equality for Christian women.
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8 Responses to M-alice in Wonderland

  1. Kristen says:

    “When every starving person has food, when every homeless person has a place to live, when every well is dug, when AIDS has been eradicated in Africa, when all of our neighbors know Jesus, then we can sit and debate about titles and who should do what.”

    If you want all these things done, then untie your sisters’ hands.

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    • Exactly! Jesus looked at the fields and said that the laborers were few. In other words, the job is so big, we need everybody we can. Why can’t they see that? You know why they can’t see it? I believe that it not so much as wanting to adhere to God’s word, as it is to wanting to be ‘right’ all this time in denying women. How can they admit that they are wrong? Instead they go on teaching this damaging theology – and let the harvest go unreaped.

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  2. Mabel says:

    Excellent point, Kristen.

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  3. EricW says:

    If Ms. Margaret substituted equal rights and authority for [insert race/people of choice] instead of “women,” I wonder if she’d still say the same thing?

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  5. Mabel says:

    I didn’t even know there are so many Baptist seminaries that churn out hierarchicalists. The Danvers Statement, the CBMW, etc. are cancerous to the Church. If you have cancer, would you say “Now is not the time” for a cure? Would you want to wait until there is Utopia on earth before you would seek treatment? Beware of graduates of Masters Seminary, John MacArthur’s seminary. They are hierarchical hardliners.

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