Create in me a new song – Part 3

Recently at a dinner table one night I met four interesting people I want to tell you about.

There were two women in our group who were ordained ministers.  These women belonged to a growing church in Missouri. They each had a ministry within their church. They were married with husbands and families, and were traveling with a larger group of women from their church. 

Apparently ordination has different meanings, depending upon the church that does the ordaining.

In a Baptist church, ordination is usually reserved for men.  Some few Baptist women are ordained. Usually a new minister is ordained when he is called to pastor his first church. He is ordained for life. 

There has been much discussion as to whether or not ordination is actually required for a pastor.  Also, women are “commissioned” to foreign missionary service, but the commissioning service is very similar to ordination.  Southern Baptists walk a fine line here.  It may look like an ordination, and act like an ordination, but if they call it a commissioning, then it is a commissioning.  And, as such, can be bestowed upon women.

The second two people I want to tell you about were Catholic husband and wife.  The husband’s brother was a priest.  They were good Catholics and had eight kids. 

She told me that in their city a woman was going to be ordained as a priest. Their priest told the congregation that if any one of them went to the ordination service, that they would be excommunicated.

Listen to what the Vatican said in July about ordaining women as priests.  They said  “ordaining women as priests is as grave an offense as pedophilia.”

Women, is this something we can take from religious leaders – no matter who they are?  Write to the local diocese, even if you are not Catholic.

Catholic women, is this something you can take from your religious leader? Stand up.  Speak up. They are just men.  Your soul is not in their hands.

Pedophilia is an outrage against children – spiritually, morally, legally, and it makes our stomachs turn to even hear of such an atrocity against a child.

And the spiritual leader over millions of people, the Pope says pedophilia crime is on the same level as having a woman as a preacher.

Create in us a new song where we can speak up against equating women to the vilest of sins.

Letter I sent to the diocese in my area Thursday, October 21, 2010.  You can use this as a sample letter.  Always be courteous, firm, and Christian in any correspondence.  Address it to the Archbishop of the diocese. 

The Vatican insulted all Christian women with their statement that “ordaining women priests was a grave an offense as pedophilia.”

I am a Christian woman. 

Pedophilia is an outrage against children – spiritually, morally, legally, and it makes our stomachs turn to even hear of such an atrocity against a child.

To compare equality of women in such a disgraceful way is a grave offense against the Body of Christ.  Christ’s church is composed of women as well as men.

You should be ashamed.  It is everybody’s business when women are equated with this vilest of sins.

Sincerely,

Shirley Taylor

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7 Responses to Create in me a new song – Part 3

  1. jane says:

    Are you kidding me? The pope comments on woman and then paedophilia, well guess he would know All about Pedos, the Pedo center of the world

    and He wants to now throw Women into THEIR SINS?
    HANG THEM….LAW SUITS HANG THEM OUT TO DRY

    JERKS

    WHY WASTE YOUR YOUR TIME REFORMING SATAN?

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    • jane says:

      and here’s to ode to Satan right here…over 10,000 Documents of Catholic Child Rape Mafia, just in

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/24/san-diego-diocese-sex-abu_n_773178.html

      it’s Bad enough that there are numerous cases like this And worse from ex-members [mostly women] of Baptist churches, fact, who are claiming they were sacrificed, raped, tortured by Satanic cults that are using the church, it Doesn’t surprise me one bit,

      it would be one thing if this was only a rare report but Hang out on a secular forum discussing religion and the stories are All over the place…raping children, putting them on crosses, peeing on them…I’ve read it all, Ritual Abuse IN the churches,

      and the Catholic, same thing, I won’t EVEN go into the thousands and I do mean THOUSANDS of documented and on going investigations of child torture/sacrifice All over Africa by Evangelicals,

      the worship of Molech, I can sort of understand [well not really] why women would want to push for being pastors in an Already corrupt infiltrated by Satan churches,

      but to then ask women, to Reform a church that is NOTORIOUS FOR CHILD MOLESTATION, AFTER THE HEAD HONCHO SACRIFICER PROTECTS THOUSANDS WHO DO MOLEST CHILDREN,

      uh, it’s just Insulting, Period.

      Do we TOO now sacrifice our children, to push for women in ministry? Ain’t NOT office worth this…to Hell with reform, I say

      BURN THE BABY DOWN TO THE GROUND…and there are Plenty of fed up people world over Ready to do Just that!

      I say, Leave the church…how CORRUPT does it have to get, SERIOUSLY?

      JANE

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      • The church is the body of Christ, and is good. There are many people in the church, and outside of the church, who have abused the church. But I am not ready to destroy it, nor to claim that it does no good. I love church people. I love people who make sacrifices each day for their fellow man in the name of Christ – and there are many of them. The good far outweighs the bad, even in the Catholic church.

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      • jane says:

        the church is not the building system institution built by MAN,

        so destroying the what is known to be as ‘church’ wouldn’t be destroying church,

        it would be destroying [or I prefer abandoning rather, let God worry about to destroy or not] a FALSE INSTITUTION THAT HAS FOR CENTURIES LEAD THOUSANDS INTO THE GATES OF HELL,

        the institution church is nothing more than Illuminati, Masonry, Secret Societies and Occults. And the evidence is so overwhelming, to deny,

        really is to prop up and hold up a FANTASY, because to Worship God is to worship NOT on this mountain or that mountain [high place] but in SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH,

        the Native peoples and Indigenous peoples, the rare individuals out there who ARE feeding the poor, working in relief, who are working to relieve suffering, THEY ARE THE TRUE ‘CHURCH’

        not this organized ritual [a.k.a. with mega Ritual Abuse, RA worship to go along with] system of BUSINESSES and POLITICAL ALIGNMENTS that have and still are, creating a ‘god’ in their MALE image.

        To try to reform such, I strongly believe is like trying to reform Communism. Even the Reformation was more about the Political motives and GREED of the rise of the merchant middle class F.A.C.T. than about God,

        clever men who Used God/Jesus to further their political agendas, which YES, granted, were good for numerous,

        and lethal to many others, such as women, slaves [other races], etc.

        But even Then, there was still room for miracles, but Today, I’m afraid, WE are dealing with a far more sinister animal, the CHURCH, be it Catholic, Protestant, or other…if we think not,

        then we are living in a delusion.

        The FRUITS of the so called CHURCH in all nations that it has Colonized, Balkanized, Butchered, mostly women and the weak, poor, alongside with the Imperialism of Islam,

        says all there needs to be said–it IS the beast [a form of] that WE were warned about,

        yes there are ‘some’ good people in these institutions, but there Comes a time, like even with the OT times, when the prophets rebuked the leaders of Israel, Judah, and warned of judgment and the destroyer,

        where it’s either one clings to Truth or clings to nostalgia. The thing is, women are Literally being SACRIFICED AS WELL AS CHILDREN,

        in the so called Man’s CHURCH.

        And many are being scattered, with NO leaders they can trust. And we aren’t just talking Here about misuse of money or a preacher or two having an Affair, no,

        we’re talking, Thousands of children tortured and sacrificed in parts of Africa by Evangelicals [fact], we are talking about Rape and sexual abuse [recent in Mormon leadership] and in Baptist, that is today, an EPIDEMIC PROPORTIONS,

        we are Talking about THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN RITUAL ABUSED AND SEXUALLY ABUSED IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WITH THE ‘HELP’ OF THE LEADERSHIP IN PROTECTING, ETC.,

        WHILE THROWING WOMEN AND GIRLS TO THE WOLVES,

        such as the case, in South America, last Year, a NINE year old girl raped by her Step father, impregnated, some helping the girl to get abortion so she does not DIE, the POPE excommunicated the girl and the ones Helping her,

        the Asshole who Raped her, gets a High Five,

        now you want to Tell me that THIS IS THE CHURCH?

        like HELL IT IS,

        IT IS THE BABYLON WHORE,

        good luck in trying to SAVE her, you’ll need it.

        Jane

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  2. …ordaining women as priests is as grave an offense as pedophilia.

    Sadly, it shows the Pope still doesn’t ‘get it’ when it comes to child abuse. Sigh.

    What a seriously stupid thing to say.

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  4. Mabel says:

    Anyone who thinks wearing a pointy hat and dressing in an ornate robe is imitating Jesus has to be seriously mentally out in left field. I do not understand why anyone would think he is the head of the ONE TRUE CHURCH as they would look you in the eye and claim without blushing. The RCC also believes that the Pope can be wrong in everything, but when it comes to church doctrines, he can make no mistakes. Go figure.

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