They could have written it in plain English, but they didn’t. My interpretations of their Statement is in Bold, along with my comments. Their document is anti-woman, and anti-Christian. They should be ashamed of it instead of promoting it.
They begin with:
Rationale
We have been moved in our purpose by the following contemporary developments which we observe with deep concern:
1. The widespread uncertainty and confusion in our culture regarding the complementary differences between masculinity and femininity; They are afraid that the Equality for women movement is gaining ground and they must stop it.
2. the tragic effects of this confusion in unraveling the fabric of marriage woven by God out of the beautiful and diverse strands of manhood and womanhood; They say women are ruining marriages, according to this.
3.the increasing promotion given to feminist egalitarianism with accompanying distortions or neglect of the glad harmony portrayed in Scripture between the loving, humble leadership of redeemed husbands and the intelligent, willing support of that leadership by redeemed wives; They are afraid that women are tired of hearing about submission and are beginning to speak up.
4. the widespread ambivalence regarding the values of motherhood, vocational homemaking, and the many ministries historically performed by women; They say women’s place is in the home and not in the workplace or church leadership.
5.the growing claims of legitimacy for sexual relationships which have Biblically and historically been considered illicit or perverse, and the increase in pornographic portrayal of human sexuality; They say equality for women will lead to homosexuality.
6. the upsurge of physical and emotional abuse in the family; They say women are being abused because they are not graciously submitting. Which is another way of saying women ask for abuse. If only women would submit, their husband would not have to abuse her. They give husbands the OK to abuse his wife.
7.the emergence of roles for men and women in church leadership that do not conform to Biblical teaching but backfire in the crippling of Biblically faithful witness; They say women can’t have authority over men. The rest of the sentence doesn’t make sense, but women are to blame, anyway.
8. the increasing prevalence and acceptance of hermeneutical oddities devised to reinterpret apparently plain meanings of Biblical texts; Those scriptures may not mean what the plain reading of them says it does, but we must ignore other possible meanings of these favorite scriptures.
9. the consequent threat to Biblical authority as the clarity of Scripture is jeopardized and the accessibility of its meaning to ordinary people is withdrawn into the restricted realm of technical ingenuity; When ordinary people see “husband of one wife” they immediately think that a woman can’t be a husband, so this eliminates a woman from serving as a deacon or Pastor. Actually this scripture states a moral standard for the leaders and their families and doesn’t address gender at all. But they don’t want you to know that.
10. and behind all this the apparent accommodation of some within the church to the spirit of the age at the expense of winsome, radical Biblical authenticity which in the power of the Holy Spirit may reform rather than reflect our ailing culture. Say what?
Affirmations
Based on our understanding of Biblical teachings, we affirm the following:
1. Both Adam and Eve were created in God’s image, equal before God as persons and distinct in their manhood and womanhood (Gen 1:26-27, 2:18). Men and women’s physical bodies don’t look alike. Any kid knows that.
2.Distinctions in masculine and feminine roles are ordained by God as part of the created order, and should find an echo in every human heart (Gen 2:18, 21-24; 1 Cor 11:7-9; 1 Tim 2:12-14). We already know that masculine and feminine roles are essential to human reproduction. But they say that we are to rejoice that God created man to rule over women, in the way they interpret the scriptures.
3. Adam’s headship in marriage was established by God before the Fall, and was not a result of sin (Gen 2:16-18, 21-24, 3:1-13; 1 Cor 11:7-9). I say the “Fall” was Adam watching Eve eat the forbidden fruit, and then he ate it, and blamed it on her. God does not recognize Male Headship as we will constantly point out in this blog.
4. The Fall introduced distortions into the relationships between men and women (Gen 3:1-7, 12, 16). I say this is a far stretch. According to inerrantists, the world was only a few days old, and there was no relationship to speak about. They didn’t even have a home or a church. If anything, it shows that Adam didn’t know beans about male headship.
In the home, the husband’s loving, humble headship tends to be replaced by domination or passivity; the wife’s intelligent, willing submission tends to be replaced by usurpation or servility. They say the problem now is that the husband is either domineering or passive; and that the wife either tries to be the man of the house or acts as a servant.
In the church, sin inclines men toward a worldly love of power or an abdication of spiritual responsibility, and inclines women to resist limitations on their roles or to neglect the use of their gifts in appropriate ministries. They admit that men love power. But according to them, women should know their place and stick to it.
5. The Old Testament, as well as the New Testament, manifests the equally high value and dignity which God attached to the roles of both men and women (Gen 1:26-27, 2:18; Gal 3:28). Both Old and New Testaments also affirm the principle of male headship in the family and in the covenant community (Gen 2:18; Eph 5:21-33; Col 3:18-19; 1 Tim 2:11-15). They refuse to acknowledge that Male Headship puts too much responsibility on men and can lead to a god-like complex which is dangerous to women and the community. The Old Testament gives very little dignity to women. The New Testament gives women equality, but subsequent Christian churches down through 2000 years have taken it away from her.
6. Redemption in Christ aims at removing the distortions introduced by the curse. Where is this coming from? Nowhere does Christ use these kinds of words.
- In the family, husbands should forsake harsh or selfish leadership and grow in love and care for their wives; wives should forsake resistance to their husbands’ authority and grow in willing, joyful submission to their husbands’ leadership (Eph 5:21-33; Col 3:18-19; Tit 2:3-5; 1 Pet 3:1-7). When we read 1 Peter 3:1-7 we see that Peter says a woman is to submit to her husband whether he is redeemed or not, and that by doing so, he may be saved. This means the wife can lead her husband to salvation. But they don’t see it that way. Submission is their goal.
- In the church, redemption in Christ gives men and women an equal share in the blessings of salvation; nevertheless, some governing and teaching roles within the church are restricted to men (Gal 3:28; 1 Cor 11:2-16; 1 Tim 2:11-15). They say women can’t preach. They can lead your child to Christ, and teach him in Sunday school, but they can’t serve your child the Lord’s Supper, or teach him when he is a teen.
7.In all of life Christ is the supreme authority and guide for men and women, so that no earthly submission-domestic, religious, or civil-ever implies a mandate to follow a human authority into sin (Dan 3:10-18; Acts 4:19-20, 5:27-29; 1 Pet 3:1-2). According to them, the woman is supposed to determine if this god-husband is asking her to sin. If he were the ‘redeemed leader” he is supposed to be, he would never ask her to sin.”
8. In both men and women a heartfelt sense of call to ministry should never be used to set aside Biblical criteria for particular ministries (1 Tim 2:11-15, 3:1-13; Tit 1:5-9). Rather, Biblical teaching should remain the authority for testing our subjective discernment of God’s will. They say that if a woman feels called to preach or serve in some other capacity, she must deny that call because God can’t call a woman to preach.
9. With half the world’s population outside the reach of indigenous evangelism; with countless other lost people in those societies that have heard the gospel; with the stresses and miseries of sickness, malnutrition, homelessness, illiteracy, ignorance, aging, addiction, crime, incarceration, neuroses, and loneliness, no man or woman who feels a passion from God to make His grace known in word and deed need ever live without a fulfilling ministry for the glory of Christ and the good of this fallen world (1 Cor 12:7-21). They say that there is a place of service for everybody, and men and women can find a fulfilling ministry, but they have set forth in the preceding statements the limits placed on women’s service.
10. We are convinced that a denial or neglect of these principles will lead to increasingly destructive consequences in our families, our churches, and the culture at large. According to them, it all hinges on the women. The Male Headship man does not bear any responsibility, or accountability. Everything is about women submitting.
Not one scripture quotes Jesus. Jesus’ acceptance of women is completely ignored in this document.
I think the Danvers Statement needs to be closely examined. Thank you for taking the plunge and opening the dialogue. And you are right, the success or failure of complementarianism hinges entirely on the subjection of women. There is something very wrong with such a concept.
It does remind you of the blame shifting that was used in the garden by Adam doesn’t it?
The rise or the fall of the church comes down to women doing their role. Where is the leadership in that stand?
Sigh.
I like your prospective on this!
I thought we needed some common-sense talk. The leadership owes women an apology.
Thanks for replying. Please let others know about my blog.
I hadn’t read that before. I’m reading it at my desk at work (I’m a receptionist) and I expect the people in the lobby think I just read some terrible news.
Your insights were excellent. As a different kind of Baptist from Canada, I applaud you and pray that your blog can reach out to the women in the SBC (and all others that need to hear).
You are not alone in not having read it. Most SBC Baptists have not read it either and have no idea that this well-known SBC Seminary adopted this statement. At first reading, and because this is essentially what they all believe, they think it is all right. They are unaware of how this will play out as the youth directors and pastors teach this to their boys and girls and to the congregation.
Thanks for reading it. Please pass it on.
Thanks for blogging to increase awareness.
please know and be encouraged that I try to pass on what I can. I have great interest and connect with the implication of how damaging it is to devalue women by imposing a man-made limit on their place in the church and home.
Thank you so much. It does damage women, and what it not known, is how much it also damages our sons when we tell them they are little husband-gods. Please do let everyone know.
Wow. You make great points, and the way you word things–very much “to the point” makes me grin with recognition of the truth in what you say (which is no mean feat, for what it’s worth, as I’m angry enough about what you blog about that I often can’t even *compose* posts on my own blog).
Your observation that the Danvers statement places responsibility on women to be properly submissive to their husbands while men seem to escape from responsibility is insightful.
I do actually agree with their initial statement in number six, in the context of sin distorting God’s ideal for his creation, and Christ coming to redeem and make all things new–even a new Earth itself, when Christ comes again. CBMW and I just agree on the *nature* of the “distortion”.
Number 8, though I have no call to preach of which I am aware, angers me. The first time I heard this sort of thing was in a women’s Bible study in which we were instructed (among other things) that the TNIV was evil and that if we thought we had a calling to preach, we needed to be careful about that (it’s been years, and I don’t recall the specific instructions)–because God doesn’t call women to preach. NICE way to instill uncertainty into women and girls.
Thanks for the work that you do.
I try to use humor in my writing. Christians need to get out of the Bible-rut (that is, they need to look at these scriptures in a new light – the rut is deep and won’t allow 3-dimensional thinking!) What is your blog about?
I blog about pretty much anything from TV shows to music to my current reading list, but the driving force behind the blog’s existence is really the fact that I was surprised and angered that the same stuff I fought against as a “secular feminist” was pushed in the church, too–only it was (even worse, IMO) pushed as God-breathed!
You’re doing a great job here of what I’ve taken stabs at from time to time, there.
Thanks. I am trying. It’s hard, but if it had been easy, it would already have been done.